"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
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"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
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The telegram received at NAS Squantum, Massachusetts, near Boston. The first wave of attackers struck at approximately 12:48 pm EST.
Read more about the attack on Pearl Harbor in tomorrow’s
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National Archives Photo
Chariotoflove
> ttyymmnn
12/07/2015 at 12:50 |
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Getting chills.
SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
> ttyymmnn
12/07/2015 at 12:55 |
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Damn Germans...
For Sweden
> ttyymmnn
12/07/2015 at 12:56 |
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That sunday when all you want is Netflix and Chill, but instead you have to Air Raid Not a Drill
RallyWrench
> ttyymmnn
12/07/2015 at 13:03 |
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Heavy. I forgot it was the 7th until I was filling out the first repair order of the morning, at which point I had to pause and reflect for a minute.
davedave1111
> ttyymmnn
12/07/2015 at 13:04 |
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Such a colossal series of fuckups and heroic acts that day. I still feel a bit for Yamamoto. He managed to get a fleet across the Pacific with perfect timing to strike just after the planned declaration of war, but the diplomats in Washington couldn’t get a telegram deciphered and across the city before the deadline, so his brilliant surprise attack turned into a cowardly sneak attack.
Counter-factual speculation being what it is, though, it’s not impossible that if PH had just been a surprise rather than a sneak attack, the US would not have joined Britain in fighting all the Axis powers.
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ttyymmnn
> davedave1111
12/07/2015 at 13:10 |
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What is the difference between a surprise attack and a sneak attack?
There are plenty of conspiracy theorists that believe that FDR knew the attack was coming but chose to do nothing to prepare for it. He wanted in the war, and Pearl Harbor gave him the exact excuse he needed. I’ve not read enough to form my own opinion about that, but it does seem plausible at the very least.
PotbellyJoe and 42 others
> ttyymmnn
12/07/2015 at 13:58 |
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My grandfather has this lapel pin. He was Navy WWII, his brother was a photographer on the Hornet when Doolittle’s raiders went back at Japan.
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ttyymmnn
> PotbellyJoe and 42 others
12/07/2015 at 14:01 |
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Did your granduncle take this photo? It’s one of the most famous photos of the war.
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davedave1111
> ttyymmnn
12/07/2015 at 14:14 |
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A surprise attack is one where two sides are at war, and one ambushes the other in some way. A sneak attack is where one side attacks the other outside the rules of war.
From what I’ve read, the US knew about an impending attack from decrypting the Japanese diplomatic cable before they did, but didn’t have time to put all the pieces together, work out where it was going to be, and get the message through.
At noon on Saturday, 6 December, Army SIGINT personnel solved and translated a message in which Tokyo instructed its ambassador, Nomura, to stand by for a 14-part message, a counterproposal to the Americans. He was instructed to present it to Secretary of State Hull at 1 p.m. EST on Sunday — unbeknownst to Japan’s diplomats in Washington, war was about to break out, but the emperor had directed that diplomatic niceties be observed and relations broken prior to the initiation of hostilities. The Japanese embassy was to destroy its cryptographic equipment once all fourteen parts had been received.
The destruction of cryptoequipment is a classic step prior to war, and this fact was not lost on the Americans.
The first thirteen parts of this important message were intercepted by the Navy station on Bainbridge Island. The intercept was teletyped to Washington, where it arrived around 3 p.m. Navy cryptanalysts tackled the message. The first thirteen parts proved to be an English-language text for presentation to the American government.
Bainbridge Island intercepted the 14th part about midnight (west coast time), and teletyped it on to Washington. The Army did the decryption of this part, which was in Japanese, and the services shared the distribution around the capital in accordance with usual practices.
With the 14-part message available, warnings were sent to American bases overseas. But, there were delays. Admiral Stark, Chief of Naval Operations, felt that previous warnings had been enough to keep Pearl Harbor alert, and declined to wake Admiral Kimmel in Hawaii at an early hour. General George Marshall, Army Chief of Staff, spent that Sunday morning in his usual recreational horseback ride and was unavailable until close to noon. He authorized dispatch of a war warning, but, as it happened, Army communications to Hawaii were down due to technical problems, and the warning was sent — via Western Union telegram!
https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptolo…
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PotbellyJoe and 42 others
> ttyymmnn
12/07/2015 at 14:21 |
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I don’t know if that was him or not, the Navy didn’t always have the photographers sign the picture they took, so it’s hard to say. He was on the ship then. He was in the documentary “Shooting War” that was done by Spielberg and narrated by Tom Hanks. Harold Kempe was his name. Here is Part 1:
He spent ~6 hours in the water when the Hornet sank at Santa Cruz.
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ttyymmnn
> PotbellyJoe and 42 others
12/07/2015 at 14:27 |
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Amazing. Thanks for sharing.